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ACP023 – Ten Reasons You Should NOT Become An Airline Pilot. Career Questions Answered with Tom Wachowski.

I spent a few days dropping my business cards off at flight schools and fixed base operators and I have come to a striking conclusion. Airports and flight schools can be the worst place to go if you want advice on becoming an airline pilot. Let me explain.

I like to leave cards at the airport so those who are interested in an aviation career will learn from the interviews and advice we provide on this show. After speaking with various people at numerous airports I received diverse reactions to my podcast.

When I speak with those who have been in the industry a long time I usually hear “I hope you are telling pilots to get out of aviation and do something that makes money”. When I speak with newer pilots excited about their new career I get a completely opposite reaction.

Most new pilots are “interested in hearing what we have to say on this podcast because they can’t wait to move their careers forward”. I can’t blame these “newbies” in the industry with all the negative feedback they get from their boss and the other older pilots working at the airport, I too would want to move on.

To help you better understand the challenges of being an airline pilot I wanted to give you some of the negatives I have heard from these people and other pilots I have spoken with over the past few decades. I have compiled a list of the top ten reasons you should not become an airline pilot so you can decide for yourself if this career is for you. If the top ten reasons are not negatives in your mind, then you will be a candidate for becoming an airline pilot.

Before we begin with our top ten list of reasons you should NOT become an airline pilot I want to ask you a favor. If you are an airline pilot and are listening to this podcast I invite you to write in with your own list of the top reasons you Should or Should NOT become an airline pilot. I will include these in an upcoming episode.

Today we are also going to spend most of the episode answering your aviation career questions sent via email. To help me with my list and to help give another perspective is Tom Wachowski. Tom was our guest in episode 14 and helped us understand the corporate pilot career.

Tom and I Discuss:

The Top Ten Reasons You Should NOT Become An Airline Pilot.

  1. You want to be home every night.
  2. You don’t like sleeping in hotel rooms.
  3. You needs lots of rest and can’t imagine working a 16 hour day.
  4. You want to a large income right away.
  5. You want to change jobs often.
  6. You want holidays off.
  7. You want to see your family every day.
  8. You don’t work well under pressure.
  9. You are afraid of being tested continually just to keep your job.
  10. You don’t like working with others in an enclosed environment.

Listener Mail:

From Ron:

I’ve only recently discovered your podcast, I appreciate the fresh perspective your episodes deliver!

For those who may not be able to fly with an airline, or may have a restriction on their medical for color vision deficiency with “not valid for night flying or by color signal control”, what other flying jobs are there aside from perhaps agricultural or patrol or daytime charters? How would one get their foot in the door with these or any other opportunities? How does one plug into the aviation “network” and begin making invaluable contacts?

From Shane:

I started listening to your podcast after your appearance on the airplane geeks podcast. At the time I was a student enrolled in the professional pilot program and working part time for the school as a veteran/financial aid adviser. Around this time our previous flight training provider lost their contract and a new flight school received the contract to conduct the flight training portion of the degree.

Word went out the new flight school was conducting interviews but since I had not yet received my CFI certification I initially thought that I shouldn’t waste my time interviewing. Luckily I remembered the advice I have heard repeatedly on your podcast that there is more to aviation careers than just flying so I went in with a resume and some optimism hoping for the best.

The following week I was contacted by the new flight school and they informed me they wanted me to be the customer service and admissions manager with a focus on student success. The best part was they agreed to let me start taking on students once I finished my flight instructor certificate!

I would never have thought to apply for this job if it were not for your advice and I could not be happier with the outcome. I love my new job and look forward to coming to work every day.

Thank you,
Shane

From James:

I just recently discovered your podcast and I really hope you continue to produce these in the future. I have been a helicopter pilot in the US Army for the past 16 years and I’m looking to start a 2nd career in the Airlines at the ripe old age of 38.

I started flying in 1990 when I was 15. At this time, a Cessna 152 was about $30/hour and the instructor was about $15/hour. At that point in time, one could pay for a private pilot certificate with about $2,000. Today the least expensive airplanes I see rent wet for about $100/hour and the CFI $50/hour. According the the US Inflation calculator, $30 in 1990 should be about $53 today, having had a rate of inflation change of 76% over the past 22 years. Even in 1990, the “old timers” were complaining about how much prices had risen since the late 70’s/early 80’s.

So why has the cost of flight training outpaced inflation by 200% over the past 20 years, and over 300% over the past 30 years?

It’s easy to blame the lawyers of the 1970’s and 1980’s for putting the Wichita companies out of the business of producing training aircraft. We still have no where near the economies of scale of production that we had during the “golden era” of the 60’s and 70’s.

I don’t think the LSA/sport pilot revolution (est. 2004) has lived up to the expectations we had anticipated 10 years ago. Is this simply because a plastic plane still needs to sell for $100k to turn a profit at the current (low) production levels?

One thing that has become more affordable over the years is the cost of the average airline ticket and the accessibility to the general public. When I took my first ride on an airplane in 1977 to visit Grandma, residing just 3 states away, it cost my parents $700 per person in 1977 dollars ($2,661 today) to board that United Airlines DC-10.

If the public thinks that we need to go back to the good old days when we were served steak and lobster with our own flight attendant to pamper us at the cost of 8 weeks worth of wages, this can still be done–it’s called first class.

And finally, to beat the dead horse of whether or not a pilot shortage really exists. Most of those in the industry who poo poo the idea of a real shortage based on the fact that during their tenure over the past 30 years, there just hasn’t been one. We have cried wolf too many times over the past 3 decades with nothing really materializing. What they need to keep in mind is that there are some major factors that have changed that didn’t occur during their time in the industry. Airline operators will no longer have the luxury of lowering the hiring minimums to 250 hours like they did in the late 1990’s. The cost of training and access to financial support to pay for training is at an all time low. Just look at the pilot population of 1980 (800,000 +) compared to today (500,000 +) and then further compare that to the number of passengers traveling and aircraft in service. This may just perhaps be the “real” shortage.

From Robert:

Hello, I found your podcast from hearing you on the Airplane Geeks Podcast. I am a former flight instructor and 135 charter pilot who has been out of the industry for the past two years but am trying to return to commercial flying. I have 1530 total time, 1197 multi engine, 960 turbojet multi and all the CFI ratings. However I have not flown in the past two years. I am hoping you might be able to advise me on how much recent experience I need to build to be a candidate for a regional airline.

Thanks,
Robert

From Terry:

Hello, My name is Terry Peterson I’m a Commercial Single Engine Land Instrument pilot with 500 TT and will have my CFI/II soon. I have been in sales for about 10 years and really enjoyed your podcast about aircraft sales. This is a field that has interested me for a while and I think with my skill set I would be a good fit in this field.

I’m working on my instructor certificates right now as kind of a student teacher. My instructor has paired me up with an instrument student, I write the lesson plans and my instructor then reviews them. I then teach the approved lesson to the student and when he is ready I sign him off for a stage check with the instructor to see how we are both doing.. If I could log dual given I would be able to log about 25 hours at this point. I like this approach because I found that I really enjoy teaching.

I have also decided to start my Aviation Maintenance Technician (AMT) training next year at my local college. I have been thinking about this for a year but after hearing your podcast about how it could make me more marketable as a pilot to have my AMT I have decided to move forward.

I have just recently found your podcast by way of the New pilot podblog when you were being interviewed by Rob. I have found your podcast informative and empowering . I believe I have been given inside information to make better educated decisions concerning my new career in aviation.

Thank you,

Terry

From Dan:

Hello Carl,

I have recently started listening to this podcast and am in the process of catching up from the beginning. Just have a few questions/comments from the episodes I have heard thus far.

In episode 15, you spoke with Betty of the Betty in the Sky with a Suitcase podcast. One point that came up was crash pads and the like, and it made me think of www.airbnb.com. Only very loosely related, as I understand this is much more like a hotel room than a long term money saving rental. However, I thought it might be worth mentioning for at least some of the corporate pilots out there, or anyone else staying overnight in a city which they don’t call home, who wants something a bit different than your usual hotel room. I’m sure the company takes care of the hotel rooms for you airline guys, so that is probably not really an issue. Perhaps this is more of a Pick of the Week for a Stuck Mic episode.

Stemming from the corporate pilot train of thought, I wanted to say that Tom Wachowski from episode 14 was by far my favourite thus far. Most likely due to the fact that he is living the life that I would like to see myself in. Which brings me to my point.

Currently, I am taking an online ground school course before I jump in to my primary flight training. Trying to be as efficient as possible in regards to my training, I have planned to complete the ground training so that I can take some time off work and focus entirely on flight training.

Everything I have read/heard says that the more you can fly during training, the better off you are. What I am hoping to do is fly 7 days a week, as I already have a flight school which assures me that will not be a problem for them.

My question is this, is there some point which could be considered too much flying? I understand that some would point out the possibility of burn out with that much flying, but if fuel would allow… I would never come down. Just not sure how passengers would feel about that. My 30th birthday is just around the corner, so I am a bit behind the ball on this, which is why I would like to expedite training without rushing so much that it is ‘bad’ training. Long term goal would be to move to a senior position with a regional carrier and do some corporate contract work on the side iif possible.

As this is already entirely too long, I will finish it up, but I do appreciate you reading through all of this and look forward to any thoughts/recommendations you might have on the subject. Keep up the great work.

Safe flying,
Dan

From Ron:

I enjoy listening to your show. I’d be very interested in hearing different viewpoints on building multi engine time.

I just finished a multi-engine commercial rating at a community college and need to continue to garner more flight experience.

I went online and came across some time building programs. I then read warnings about some of those programs on other websites. They claimed that buying time at some of those operations was essentially worthless because many prospective employers view that time as garbage.

I talked to a FBO that had a multiengine available for rent and there was even more disagreement.

I’m confused and I need to hear from professionals who don’t have any financial stake in giving good advice.

From Todd:

Carl,

No doubt, this isn’t the first email you have received from someone pondering a career change. I am 40 years old and have always had a passion for flying. I obtained my Private PIlot Certificate before starting college.

I was planning to pursue my dream of becoming a corporate pilot when I discovered the FAA’s vision requirements. I was crushed, so I left aviation and am now a veterinarian. Fast forward to now.

I recently discovered that the FAA changed their vision requirements not long after I left aviation. I couldn’t believe it! Well, here I am, pondering one of the biggest decisions of my life. I’ve never had the same passion for my current career as I do flying. My goal is once again to fly for a corporate flight department. That leads me to this question:

Multi-engine PIC time is so important for many jobs. With most freight companies out of business, building time as a cargo pilot is almost a thing of the past. How can someone today build that important multi-engine time short of buying it? Instructing is one way, but fewer people seem to be pursuing multi-engine ratings. What are some other ways one can build PIC multi-engine time?

Thanks!

Todd

Links Mentioned in The Show:

Airmanship and Experience: Taking Advantage Of The Pending Pilot Shortages

Airplane Geeks Podcast

ATP Flight School

Action Multi Engine Ratings

Tom Wachowski – Consider It Brands.

Recommendation:

The Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing


ACP022 Designing Tomorrow’s Airplanes With Aerospace Engineer Alan Lawless

aerospace engeneerIf you want to play a key role in designing the next generation of aircraft and you have an interest in math and science, an aerospace engineering job might interest you. Aerospace engineers develop the new technologies in aviation, defense systems, and spacecraft.

Today I have with me someone who can help us understand what it is like to be involved in one of the more exciting engineering projects shaping the future of air travel. Alan Lawless is a Chief Flight Test Engineer and will be helping us understand the career opportunities in aerospace engineering.

Alan and I Discuss:

aerospace engeneer

  • How he became interested in Aviation and Engineering.
  • The type of education needed to become an engineer.
  • If you are in high school what you should study to better prepare yourself for a career in engineering.
  • Engineering degrees with applications in the aviation industry.
  • Organizations you should research and/or join if you want to be an aerospace engineer.
  • The lifestyle of an engineer.
  • Career progression and pay.
  • The future of aerospace engineering.


For More Information:

Bureau Of Labor Statistics: Aerospace Engineers

Aerospace Engineer Pay

The Society Of Flight Test Engineers

The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics

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ACP021: Adventures Of A Police Helicopter Pilot; Interview with Darryl J. Kimball

Ever watch an episode of COPS or an old rerun of CHIPS and wonder what it would be like to be a police officer chasing the bad guys? Well for me I never wanted to chase anyone in a patrol car but sure thought it would be cool to be the person in the helicopter chasing the suspect. Today I have with me someone who can tell us what it is really like to be a police helicopter pilot chasing the bad guys.

Darryl Kimball is a helicopter pilot, police officer, and author. Darryl is with us today to help us understand what it takes to become a police helicopter pilot and what the job entails. I think you will enjoy the journey as Darryl guides us through the day in the life of a police helicopter pilot.

Darryl and I Discuss:

  • How Darryl became interested in aviation.
  • Why he chose to become a police officer.
  • A day in the life of a police helicopter pilot.
  • His most rewarding moments as a helicopter pilot.
  • How you can become a Police Helicopter pilot.
  • The requirements for both aviation and law enforcement.
  • His recent book Catch The Sky : The Adventures and Misadventures Of A Police Helicopter Pilot.
  • The aviation jobs that support the law enforcement mission.
  • His advice to those seeking a career in law enforcement and in being a police helicopter pilot.
  • His website PoliceHelicopterPilot.com.

Recommendation:

Catch The Sky: The Adventures and Misadventures Of A Police Helicopter Pilot is more than a story of the exciting world of police aviation, although much is told about this lifestyle. The real story is of persistence and perseverance of a young boy from a small town to fulfill his dream of a different life outside of his small town. A life full of adventures, beautiful places, and excitement.

There are two reasons you should read Catch The Sky. First, to discover what it is like to be a police helicopter pilot. Second, to learn why persistence and perseverance is important when working towards achieving your career goal. His journey will inspire you and lead you to greater success in your career and in life.

I hope you enjoyed listening to Darryl’s journey in life toward becoming a police helicopter pilot. We are honored to have Darryl with us today and really appreciate his service as a police officer and the role he plays in he keeping the public safe and secure.

If you have any questions for Darryl you can contact us and we will forward those questions along to Darryl. To contact us please go to AvationCareersPodcast.com and click on the contact page. Don’t forget to like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter. I also invite you to leave a voicemail at 347-MY-WINGS or 347-699-4647. If you have comments, suggestions, or questions for me or one of my guests please feel free to ask.

Hope to see you next episode. Safe Flying!

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ACP020 Land That Job: Successful Interviews and Resumes with Amanda Myers of JSfirm.com

If you are preparing for a job interview then this episode is for you. I will share with you the key elements to a successful interview. To help me with this process I am excited to have with me Amanda Myers of JSfirm.com.

JSfirm.com creates aviation opportunities by having one of the most extensive listings of aviation jobs on the internet. Amanda is with me today to discuss how you can increases your chances of obtaining a job in the aviation field by having an outstanding resume and being prepared for your interview.

Amanda and I discuss:

  • The Importance of A Good Resume.
  • Hiring prospects in the aviation industry.
  • Why the first phone contact is important.
  • Qualifications and interview performance.
  • The Interview Process.
  • The importance of rehearsing a script.
  • How and why you should practice before the interview.
  • What is JSfirm.com and how they create aviation opportunities.
  • The aviation resume services offered by JSfirm.

Recommendation:

JSfirm is truly “creating aviation opportunities” as their byline states.

The website has a broad scope of jobs in the aviation industry while focusing on the most popular jobs. If you want to view the various jobs in the aviation industry this is a great place to start. You can spend time perusing their website and learning about the many job opportunities.

JSfirm.com allows you to post your resume for free and offers resume services. I highly suggest you read the section of their job interview tips which is free. To find your next career in aviation and to learn more about the services provided by JSfirm.com please call 724-547-6203 or visit JSfirm.com.

Listener Questions:
(note: questions are edited for privacy and content)

Question From Erol:

Hello Carl,

I want to start off by telling you how much I enjoy both of your podcasts. They’re both on my regular not-to-be-missed podcast playlist.

I’m a complete aviation geek and have been my whole life. I’m passionate about aviation, the airline business, and piloting. In fact, I am launching a podcast of my own here soon.

I am a private pilot with 300 hours in a single engine airplane. I’m 42 working in the semiconductor industry.

Question 1:

So this brings me to my first question. In researching my options to “punch my tickets” i.e. getting the instrument, multi, commercial, CFI, CFII and MEI ratings, I came across ATP (http://www.atpflightschool.com/). What is your opinion of ATP or a similar school where you earn the ratings in 90 days? Would this training be looked upon as a positive or a negative by an airline? If this is a negative, what would be a better alternative?

Answer:

Thank you for the questions and listening to both of the podcasts I am involved with. For those of you who only know me from listening to this podcast, I am a regular co host on The Stuck Mic AvCast. This is another aviation podcast about learning to fly, living to fly, and loving to fly. If you want to hear some interesting conversations about flying general aviation airplanes go to StuckMicAvCast.com.

First let me say I am inspired by your enthusiasm and think you will enjoy a job in the aviation field. To answer your first question, I feel schools where you earn all of your ratings in 90 days can be both good and bad, it depends on the school.

I am very familiar with ATP flight school and feel they do a great job with training. As a matter of fact I sent one of my students there because he wanted to accelerate the process of becoming a professional pilot. Now with that said I have attended many accelerated programs for various ratings and I can say the quality of training is the most important aspect of the flight school.

I went to one accelerated program where I feel I received poor training and the school finally folded. Other accelerated programs I have attended were good. I look at these accelerated programs similar to summer school classes where you attend class all day. They are intense, you learn quickly because you are immersed in the material, and the quality depends on the quality of the program and the instructors.

I don’t think this training is looked upon as a positive or a negative at the airline. I see many new hires come from these accelerated programs. With that said you must understand in aviation there is no substitute for quality training and experience.

Question 2:

Now, assuming I get my ratings, can you help me understand the difference between quality hours and non-quality hours as it relates to a hiring airline? If the looming pilot shortage is real, do you expect airlines to be picky about how the hours were flown?

Answer:

The difference between quality hours and non-quality hours as it relates to a hiring airline is simple. Do the hours you are gaining make you come closer to minimums for the airline you are applying. If the airline you are interested in working for has a minimum of 200 hours multi-engine time and you are flying a single engine it doesn’t matter how many hours you get if you don’t get the 200 multi-engine time.

This happened to me. I had many hours of flight instructing in single engine aircraft and very few hours of multi-engine time. I had an airline call me three times to see if I wanted to interview and each time I couldn’t even interview because I didn’t have enough multi-engine time.

When I was furloughed this also hurt me because I didn’t have enough multi-engine piston time to work at a flight school teaching in their twin. So the moral of the story is to build as much multi-engine time as you can.

One further consideration is to make sure you actually have some time actually flying the plane. There are some airlines who distinguish on your application the time you were “sole manipulator of the controls”. Theoretically you could get your ratings and fly right seat as safety pilot and only land the plane every 90 days to keep current. My advice is to have a mix of both being the sole manipulator of the controls and the safety pilot. Of course if you get your CFI you are no longer logging safety pilot time. I highly recommend your getting your CFI if you want to make money and build time.

The upcoming hiring boom or “pilot shortage” for the airlines will work like this. There are many high time pilots on the street right now who will probably get the jobs first. But since the number of qualified pilots is less than it was 10 years ago the airlines will go through this fairly quickly and then they won’t be a “picky” about your hours. Remember to always be trying to increase your eligibility for the airlines no matter the stage of the hiring cycle.

When one of the “pilot shortages/hiring cycles” came back in the 90’s my friend was hired with 5000 hours and that was considered competitive for a regional job at the time. Only a year later the regionals began hiring pilots with as few as 500 hours. That is where I see us heading in the future.

One other item that you need to keep an eye on is if the FAA is going to relax the new requirement for all first officers at an airline to have an ATP. This may happen and is something to watch.

Question 3:

Given my age, is it realistic to think I can make it to the airline? And, if I do, what are my chances of reaching a seniority to hold a line and no longer fly reserve?

Answer:

Given your age it is quite realistic to make it to the airline but you must help me define what you mean by an airline. Many people are making the career choice to remain at the “regional airlines”. Many of these airlines fly to different countries and have great benefits and pay. After 10 years with the large jet regionals you can expect to make low six figures and have approximately 15 days off.

What is interesting is the DOT classifies many of the large regionals as major airlines due to the fact they use gross revenue to define the difference between regional and major. Most employment websites classify these airlines in the “National and Low Cost Carrier” sector.

Furthermore, with a regional carrier you will get to go to many of the same cities and countries as the majors as long as it is not too far over seas. About 7 years ago while flying for a “regional” I flew to three countries in one day. I’m not sure we can continue to call this type of flying regional anymore.

With all this said, if you do wish to make it to a Major airline and schedule is important for you then research the age of the pilots at the airline where you want to work. To advance on the seniority list someone senior to you must retire or leave the company. If there are many people above you on the list that are younger than you your advancement up the list will be limited. The reason I say you must look at age is because people don’t leave once they are senior because there are no lateral moves in the airline business. This is something to research when you are looking at an airline.

Question 4:

And finally what are your comments about the quality of life as a pilot? I’m not so much concerned with the salary because my wife and I are financially prepared for the change in income. I’m more concerned about being a parent.

I’ve spoken with pilots who say that while they’re away for 3-4 days each week the time at home the remainder of the week is higher quality. For example when they’re home, they’re home all day versus me who when home is in an office 8-10 hrs/day. I’ve spoke with other pilots who claim they missed the first 20 years of their child’s life and feel like they missed everything. Obviously two different viewpoints. Not sure if you have kids or not but any feedback is appreciated.

Answer:

Your final question regarding quality of life as a pilot is an interesting one. Much of your quality of life depends on the type of equipment you are flying, your seniority, and the airline you work for. It also can change with the seasons and economic cycles.

I have had both wonderful schedules and poor schedules depending on my seniority and how they schedule pilots at the airlines I have worked for. At times I have had 20 days off a month and was home more than on the road. Other times I might not get home for 2 weeks at a time only to be home for less than 36 hours. Again this is all dependent on the airline, your seniority and how far you live from work.

For example, I live over a thousand miles from where I work. I have to commute to work sometimes 24 hours in advance and at times don’t get to come home from work for up to 12 hours after I finish a trip. It takes me door to door six hours to get to work on a good day but I normally need a few more hours in case of cancellations and bad weather.

If you decide not to “commute” to work and simply drive into work it can make your schedule much easier to deal with and you will get be home more often. I know that when I lived in base I felt like it was a different job altogether. When I left work I would be home in an hour and that was it until the next time I went to work.

As flight crew members we can live anywhere in the world. We can live in an island paradise and commute to work, or we can live near the airport where we are based. The ultimate would be to have a base near a place you want to live. This would be the ultimate quality of life for a pilot and I know many who do this. But you need to work at an airline who has a base where you want to live.

You see much goes into the decision when you are looking towards a career as a flight crew member. Commuting will very much affect your lifestyle. It affects mine tremendously. But I made a decision to live in an island paradise with sand in my toes and then jump on a plane and go to work. This lifestyle is not for everyone but it does have some perks.

Thanks again for the great questions Erol.

Closing:

If you are interested in getting into the aviation or aerospace field I hope you have realized through this interview the wide variety of jobs available. Whether flying, designing, building, repairing, or managing airplanes you can find a job in aviation if that is your passion.

To contact us please go to AvationCareersPodcast.com and click on the contact page. Don’t forget to like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter. I also invite you to leave a voicemail at 347-MY-WINGS or 347-699-4647. If you have comments, suggestions, or questions for me or one of my guests please feel free to ask.

Hope to see you next episode. Safe Flying!


ACP019 You Can Be A Test Pilot, Military Aviation Careers, Interview With Mark Jones


Wonder what it would be like to be an Air Force Test Pilot?  Thinking of a career as a pilot in the military?  Maybe you want a career in one of the various aviation career fields in the military. Today I have with me someone who has accomplished all of these goals.

Our guest today is Mark Jones a former USAF test pilot, author, and civilian test pilot. I am excited to have Mark with us today to speak about jobs in the military and one of the most exciting jobs, that of being a test pilot.

We discuss:

Recommendation:

Forever Flying By Bob Hoover.

Watching Bob Hoover perform at air shows is always a pleasure because he makes the audience gasp in excitement and amazement. Bob started his flying career as a military pilot and became a USAF test pilot and then began work as a civilian pilot.

If you enjoyed listening to Mark Jones recount his exciting career as a test pilot I think you will thoroughly enjoy “Forever Flying” by Bob Hoover. Bob is an aviation hero. My favorite story is when he escaped a POW camp during World War II, stole a German plane, and flew it to Holland.  To hear an inspirational and exciting story of another test pilot I highly recommend “Forever Flying”.

Thanks for listening to Aviation Careers Podcast. I hope this show has helped you define and inspire you to achieve your aviation career goals.

If you have a question for me or one of our guests there are numerous ways to contact us. You can leave a voicemail at 347-MY-WINGS or go to AviationCareersPodcast.com/Contact. Remember to like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for more aviation career news. I would love to hear your feedback and welcome all questions. If you have downloaded this on iTunes please go to iTunes and rate this podcast so others can benefit from the content we provide.

If you want to become a test pilot I hope Mark Jones has inspired you and made you realize that you may have what it take to become a test pilot. Define your goal and then keep focused while you enjoy the journey towards your aviation career goal.

Talk to you next episode and Safe Flying!

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ACP018 Aircraft Sales, Interview with Chris Findley of My Flight Coach

Do you you want to combine a challenging and exciting career in sales and flying? One way to combine the two passions are by becoming a pilot and selling airplanes. You can have the best of both worlds. Our guest today will describe how he is able to combine both careers.

Today I have with me Chris Findley. Chris is an aircraft salesman, flight instructor, podcaster, and author. I am excited to have Chris with us today not only because he can describe the life of an aircraft sales person but also because he has designed an aviation lifestyle that best fits his skills and passions.

Chris and I Discuss:

  • His interest in aviation and his first flight at the age of 10!
  • Why Chris chose aircraft sales.
  • His diverse and varied path to his current career.
  • How Chris was able to combine all his passions in life and design a fulfilling career in aviation.
  • His website and podcast myFlightCoach.com
  • Advice for those interested in a challenging career in aircraft sales.
  • His book “You Can Be a Pilot!: Answers to 25 Questions About Learning To Fly

Links Mentioned in This Show:

Recommendation:

Learning what it takes to become a pilot can be an intimidating and confusing process. Most wanting to learn about flying go to the local airport to ask someone about learning to fly but find the first contact at the flight school is not very helpful. One place you can find the answers to your questions about flying are through reading the book “You Can Be A Pilot!”.

Our guest today, Chris Findlay, has done a wonderful job of answering the most common questions about learning to fly. His book “You Can Be A Pilot! : Answers to 25 Questions About Learning To Fly” is a great place to start in your journey to becoming a pilot.

Before you go to the airport I highly recommend your reading this book. It will answer all of your questions about learning to fly and will teach you a few things you might not have expected.

You can find the book by linking to the image below:

Thanks for listening to Aviation Careers Podcast. I hope listening to Chris today has inspired you to become a pilot and to look into the challenging and exciting career as an aircraft sales person. If you have any questions or comments for myself or Chris go to AviationCareersPodcast.com/Contact or call us and leave a voicmail at 347-MY-WINGS.

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Talk to you next Episode. Safe Flying!


ACP017 – The Successful Flight Instructor, Interview with Max Trescott 2008 National Flight Instructor Of The Year

Many look upon the flight instructor position as a stepping stone towards another career goal while earning poverty level wages. Other instructors are able to command six figure incomes and pursue a fulfilling career helping create knowledgeable and safe pilots.

One of the misconceptions in the aviation industry is that flight instructors will always make less than minimum wage and will live in poverty until they obtain a better flying job. Today I want to debunk this myth and help you become a successful flight instructor who has many students and is able to make a great living teaching.

Today I have with me a flight instructor who has been able to build a successful instructing business. As you know I always tell my students that you should try to become an expert in one area of aviation to build your confidence and is thus one of the reason I started the blog ExpertAviator.com.

Becoming an expert in a specific area of instruction will help you build your client base and will also build great confidence which will permeate through to your students. I am excited to have with me an instructor who is truly the “expert of the glass cockpit” and has build a succesful instructing business, Max Trescott. Max is author of two of the best handbooks on glass cockpit GPS flying. He is also the 2008 National Flight Instructor Of The Year. Today he is going to help us discover what it takes to become a successful flight instructor and have a fulfilling aviation career.

Max and I Discuss:

  • How Max became a pilot.
  • Why Max is passionate about aviation.
  • His business background.
  • How becoming the expert of the “glass cockpit” helped build his business.
  • How you can build a large client base by becoming an aviation “expert”.
  • Why many instructors make $1,000 a month and others $10,000 a month.
  • How you can build your business and your income as a flight instructor.
  • The Savvy Flight Instructor: Secrets of the Successful CFI (ASA Training Manuals)

Recommended Reading:

Max Trescott’s “GPS and WAAS Instrument Flying Handbook” and the “G1000 Glass Cockpit Handbook


Comments From The Jumpseat:

One of the wonderful things about working for the airlines is that I get to travel the world for free. As a pilot I can sit in the extra seat in the flight deck called the jumpseat. It is normally a seat that is stowed and is only folded out when necessary. It’s use is for observing the pilots during line checks but is also one of the ways we get home when the rest of the plane is full.

While sitting in the jumpseat it is an unwritten rule that our conversations and actions are private. Therefore, what we say in the flight deck stays in the flight deck. This rule gave me an idea.

Since this podcast is about aviation careers where we give advice on helping people achieve their aviation career goals I have decided to add a new segment to the show, “Comments From The Jumpseat”.

“Comments From The Jumpeast” is your opportunity to share anonymously with others your experience in the career of aviation. I am very aware of the various media policies at most companies and understand the importance of your privacy.

With that said I want to ask you a favor. If you are a pilot, mechanic, air traffic controller, manager, or any other person who is involved in the aviation field please consider sharing with me and my listeners what it s like to work in your job. We want to know the good and the bad so please share it with us. All your comments will be shared anonymously and will help the listeners understand what it is really like to work in your aviation job. Please send your comments to Carl@AviationCareersPodcast.com If you send a question I will not use your name nor will I use any information that might identify who you work for. Of course if you would like to be on the show someday I would more than welcome your sharing your career experience with us.

Since I started producing Aviation Careers Podcast I have asked the people I am in contact with to share with me some advice and relate to me what they would say to someone who is looking to work in the aviation field or who is trying to advance their career. I have been getting some really interesting comments.

So my first Comments From The Jumpseat actually comes from the Jumpseat. I was sitting in the cockpit during my commute home and asked the pilots would they recommend an airline pilot as a career? Both answered with a resounding yes. Then I asked for a quick overview of how they got to where they are today.

Both had very interesting stories about their journey to the flight deck of an airliner. The Captain had know what he wanted to do from a young age and now finds himself in his early 40’s as a Captain with a major airline. He also was very cognizant of how lucky he is to have chosen a career at a very young age. Just think he will be making money as an airline captain for many decades to come.

The first officer had another career working in an office but did not like being inside all day. This was a great career change for him. He also likes his job.

So when I asked the question if they would recommend this job to others they both said yes but had some cautions. If you want to be home every night especially while you are working your way up the seniority list, this job may not be for you. Some other challenges some might have are the fact that you are away for many days at a time and can’t help out around the house. This is especially true if you have a family.

With that said the wonderful thing about flying for the airlines is that when you walk off the plane your job is done. No calls from the office. When you are done you are done with work. And even though you are gone for days you are also home for many days and have all the time at home to concentrate on your family or other interests.

The other advice the Captain gave was this is not the “dozing for dollars” job everyone thinks it will be. “Dozing for dollars” is a reference to how we as airline pilots get paid lots of money for traveling the world while doing little work and is so boring that we find ourselves dozing off. This of course is far from the truth. The Captain said it is important to know it is your responsibility to make every flight safe and there is much more to think about than simply pushing the autopilot button sitting back and relaxing. A great point Captain.

The Captain further stated that he hears all the negative comments and that airline pilots many times complain amongst themselves but you must take these complaints in context. If you asked most of them if they would quit their job and do something else most of them would say no and some would say “what are you crazy. Then I would have to work for a living”. Furthermore, he said it is really tough for us to truly complain to the public about our job because they normally can’t relate to the challenges of the job especially when they find out you are making $160 an hour and have 15 days off a month.

One last thing both of them said which I think is the most important comment. If flying for the airlines is something you want to do and you can deal with all the impacts on your personal life then you should give it a try and don’t wait. This job is all about seniority and the amount of money you make at an airline is dependant on the age you get hired because the pay is based wholly on the number of years you have worked for a specific airline.

I want to thank both the Captain and the First Officer of this flight for being frank and sharing their experiences with us. If you are listening thanks from myself and our listeners for the great advice.

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ACP016 Building A Business While Working For The Airlines, Interview With Justin Lukasavige of Coach Radio

I am excited to bring you a new perspective on aviation careers from someone who worked as an airline pilot and discovered a new calling in life. One of the benefits of working for the airlines as a flight crewmember is the large number of days off. Some relax or travel on their days off while others build businesses.

Today I am speaking with Justin Lukasavige who built a successful business while working as an airline pilot. As a matter of fact he realized flying full time was not for him and pursuing his business full time is. Let’s hear what Justin has to say about pursuing a career with the airlines and why he decided to leave his airline job and run his own business.

We Discuss:

  • His journey to the airlines.
  • Obtaining a degree from an aviation college.
  • Is there a “best” degree from someone pursuing an aviation career.
  • Advice to those looking to run a business while working at the airlines.
  • Why he left the airlines.
  • What he is doing now with CoachRadio.tv
  • Is flying still in Justin’s future?

Links Mentioned in This Podcast:

CoahRadio.tv

Recommendation:


Most of you listening to this podcast are interested in starting or changing to a career in aviation. No matter what career path you choose you should choose work that you feel is worthy of your time and fulfills your purpose.

Most people are stuck in jobs that do not fulfill their purpose in life and therefore they can’t wait until Friday because it starts the weekend. The reason most love Friday is because it signals a day where you can begin doing something you enjoy or are passionate about.

I am fortunate enough to have realized at a young age that I want to enjoy every day as if it was Friday. That is why the book by Joel Osteen : Every Day a Friday : How to Be Happier 7 Days a Week, appealed to me.

This book is from a Christian perspective but the principles apply to all who are trying to live a more fulfilling life where they can get up in the morning and say “thank God it is Today!“ instead of “thank God it is Friday”.

I am an example of a person who has no Monday’s and to me every day seems to be a Friday. It was a choice I made to design a life where I can enjoy every day. The book Every Day a Friday by Joel Osteen uses basic principles that will help you become one of the fortunate who feels every day is a Friday.

Every Day a Friday: How to Be Happier 7 Days a Week

A great way to keep motivated each day is listening to audiobooks while doing other tasks such as walking or commuting to work. Every Day a Friday is available on Audible for free by signing up for a 30 day trial from this website. You can sign up for a 30 day free trial by going to AviationCareersPodcast.com/Audible or by clicking on the link below. You can cancel at any time and still keep the book for free.

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It was a pleasure having Justin Lukasavige of CoachRadio.tv on our show today. I think his advice will help you fulfill your career goals. I encourage you to visit his website CoachRadio.tv.

Many of you are thinking of becoming an airline pilot because you heard it affords you many days off so that you can pursue other interests such as starting a business. There are many benefits and challenges to owning a business when you are working as an airline pilot. I hope this discussion has enlightened you as to the benefits and challenges of building a business while working as an airline pilot.

Thanks for listening to Aviation Careers Podcast. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions go to AviationCareersPodcast.com/contact. You can also find us on Twitter and Facebook. If you want to leave a voice mail please call us at: 347-MY-WINGS or (347) 699-4647.

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ACP015 Flight Attendant Careers, Interview With Betty In The Sky With A Suitcase

Welcome to Episode 15. Ever wonder what it is like to be a flight attendant? Well today I am excited to have my first flight attendant on Aviation Careers Podcast to help us understand the exciting career of a flight attendant.

In today’s show we discuss pursuing a career as a flight attendant. I am very excited to have with me the person I feel is best to help introduce this career to us, Betty Thesky. Betty is a flight attendant with a major airline, author of “Betty In The Sky With A Suitcase”, and host of the podcast Betty In The Sky With A Suitcase. I think you will learn a great deal as we introduce you to the exciting career as flight attendant.

Betty and I discuss:

  • Her journey to becoming a flight attendant.
  • Why do we have flight attendants?
  • The day in the life of a flight attendant.
  • Commuting to work.
  • Seniority.
  • What is a crash pad?
  • Qualifications for a job as a flight attendant.
  • What you can do to make yourself more competitive when applying for a job.
  • Expected earnings and premium pay.
  • Betty’s advice for those looking into a career as a flight attendant.
  • Her Podcast Betty In The Sky With A Suitcase.
  • Recommended Reading: Betty In The Sky With A Suitcase.

Links Mentioned In This Podcast:

Bureau Of Labor Statistics – Flight Attendant Pay

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ACP014 – What Is Business And Private Aviation?, Interview with Corporate Pilot Tom Wachowski

Welcome aboard Episode 14. I am excited you are joining me today on a journey through the world of Business and Private Aviation. Most use the term corporate aviation to describe this type of flying because corporations and individuals that own corporations utilize business aircraft.

Some Examples of Business Aviation Usage from the NBAA.org website:

  • Transportation of employees.
  • Transportation of customers.
  • Transportation of cargo, parts and mail.
  • Medical and emergency transport.
  • Mapping and surveying.
  • Aerial photography.
  • Agricultural applications.
  • Game tracking and control.
  • Security and law enforcement.
  • News gathering.
  • Airborne research and development.
  • Pipeline and utility monitoring.
  • Weather monitoring and reporting.
  • Humanitarian missions.

To help us discover the unique and diverse aviation career path of a corporate pilot I have a special guest with me today. Tom Wachowski flies a Challenger 604 and Falcon 2000 for a Fortune 500 company. He has been flying professionally since 1999 and has done everything from flight instructing, flying as an airline Captain, and as a charter pilot.

Tom and I discuss:

  • His journey from airline pilot to corporate pilot.
  • His experience flying for the airlines.
  • Why the airline shutting down was the best thing for his aviation career.
  • The job opportunities flying for businesses and private individuals.
  • Opportunities in flying other than the airlines.
  • The many career opportunities in Business and Private aviation.
  • His advice for someone looking towards a career in business aviation.
  • Tom’s interests other than flying and how it ties into his current career.
  • Tom and I answer Listener e-mail.

Listener Question From Patrick:

First, I think this podcast is a great idea. You truly hit the nail on the head when you said that you were looking to fill an unmet need with this. Thank you!

At the age of 40 I received my Private Pilot ticket. Now 41, I am working on Instrument rating with just over 110 hrs. TFT.

Question 1:

Currently I am in sales and cover multiple states and would like to approach my employer about flying to accounts. I would need to rent (which I’m doing currently or would consider a flying club as an option.) I would like to hear from others in a similar situation and how they introduced it to their company, pros/cons (for both me and company), pitfalls, cost analysis, etc.

Question 2:

I like how you discuss having a career contingency plan (which makes perfect sense in this day and age). I have a few rental properties a significant distance (by car) from where I live. This is part of my contingency plan. I am considering another rental property or a plane (and lease back to the local rental company) as a next venture. There are 2 questions here: a. How does someone own and fly in support of their personal LLC business (pros, cons, financial implications). b. Is a lease back financially profitable/break even, contractual considerations with rental company (a glass 172 is the plane in mind). An accountant perspective would be great!

Question 3:

I’m married with 2 kids 6 and 3. My wife works (is the breadwinner) and together we make low 6 figure incomes annually. Ultimately I would love to fly for a living. At age 41 with a Private and 110 hrs TFT, is a career as a pilot (likely Regionals at best with such a long road ahead) feasible? What would be the best course of action? What timeframe and financial burden can I expect?

Thanks for the interesting questions Patrick. I really enjoy receiving these questions and answering them so that all of our listeners can benefit. If you have questions concerning aviation careers and would like to hear them answered on this podcast please submitt them by going to the contact page at AviationCareersPodcast.com/Contact. You can also send me a question via Twitter, Facebook, or e-mail.

I enjoy helping all of you achieve your aviation career goal. If you have any questions or suggestions for guest you would like to hear interviewed on this podcast please let me know by contacting me. I have a line up of many guests who are in various fields in aviation and I think you will really enjoy hearing from them in upcoming episodes. Your questions will be edited for privacy and accuracy.

Tom Wachowski has had a varied and interesting career in aviation. We look forward to speaking with him on upcoming episodes. Please send us any questions you may have about business or private aviation to AviationCareersPodcast.com/Contact.

Links Mentioned in this podcast:

Tom Wachowski’s website Consider It Brands.

NBAA TravelSense: tool which demonstrates the value of business aviation can provide your company

AOPA – Aircraft Owners And Pilots Association

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Thanks for listening and safe flying.